Ahhh...Kalifornia!!

This is true... and frightening.

 

Our gun control in canada is very tight. If it isn't a hunting weapon, you can't have it. Regulations for transport are very strict too. This in a effort to curb gun violence. Does it work? I think so. No one is getting shot from crimes of passion and the like.
Do criminals still have the firearms they need to perpetrate their dirty deeds. Yes. It's all knife work in the city I live in when someone is trying to off someone.
Top news around here is a drive by shooting with a BB gun in the village. Causes a big stink.
Canadians for the most part have a very different view on gun control.

 

The problem is not the guns though it is the people who misuse them. The whole thing about gun control is two fold...One it infringes on our RIGHT to own a firearm and number two it is an attempt to legislate morality to an extent. If there are less guns then there are less shooting deaths. Less shooting deaths equals a better more moral society. Of course this is a load of horse crap. The government is trying to control everything and they always go about it by coming in through backdoors and disguised as ways to help us or protect us. I am not buying it though.

 

Basic difference in American and Canadian Constitutions. We do not have the constitutional right to have firearms. Makes for very different rule making. What doesn't happen in canada is the crimes of passion where someone gets shot after finding out their lover has been sleeping around on them. No gun available, so they kill them with their hands. Result is the same. I understand and find no real fault with the American viewpoint of guns. I can also find no fault in the Canadian approach.

 

I agree it does make for different rule making. I didn't mean to come across as going against the Canadian approach. I was specifically referring to our laws and our government.

 

Oh I understand. Reasonable folks like ourselves can talk about these things without shooting. Which is good, cause I don't have a gun LOL.
It's always the criminals that are the problem.

 

And the other problem is that the criminals end up having more rights than the victims do.

 

You know, on that topic I concur completely! Guy that works here catches some kid busting his fence up. Catches the kid, who then starts lipping him off. 13yrs old no less. Buddy here gives him a literal kick in the ass and sends him on his way.
Cops show up. He gets charged with assualt. Freakin dumb ass canadian laws don't allow you to protect your own home!!! He should have laid a lickin on him so bad that he would have been afraid of walking down his street again. End result would have been the same.
But yes, it seems that when a criminal gets hurt or wounded doing a break and enter on your house. You sir are at fault for defending what is yours! Total bs. Does the same thing happen in the states?

 

It absolutely does. Get yourself a fast talking lawyer and you can dodge a murder charge. Injure a burglar breaking into your home and you can be facing assault charges when they claim they were extremely disoriented and thought it was their house.

In short, justice is all about finding a lawyer that knows how to snake through the system best. This microstamping law is going to land a whole lot of innocent gun owners in jail when the criminals catch on to collecting shells at shooting ranges and planting them at the crime scenes while making sure to destroy all of their casings. Of course that is assuming they went the legal path to buying a firearm in the first place, which anybody should know does not happen if the intended use for the firearm is of illegal nature... Even somebody who acquired a firearm through legal means could just remove the microstamp if they don't want it traced.

It is as if this is all part of a bigger plan. Bit by bit place restrictions on the law abiding citizens claiming it is to fight crime while in reality the criminals continue to ignore the law. Then 20 years from now when you have to scan an RFID chip implanted in your arm (by law) to be allowed out of your house or anywhere else (to help investigators verify alibies lets say...to fight crime) people won't even realize that innocent until proven guilty has been flipped around. All it takes is a little bit of "We're here to protect you" and the people throw their rights away. Of course this is followed up by phrases like "war on terror/drugs"

Funny how we're at war with a concept, or a plant, not a country or group of people. Makes it easier to draw the war out for as long as desired this way though. After all, how can a war end when there is no clear-cut opposition in the first place? Going to war with "terrorists" is the exact same as going to war with all that would raise a hand to oppose you. The taliban today, Iran tomorrow, Venezuela the next day. Man, who would have thought that a single word could influence Americans to go to war with anybody their government says falls into the category. The ultimate tool of political influence has been put in place and the wartime corporations couldn't be happier to fuel any and all wars the government feels are necessary. Both sides of it. Those 200,000 missing AK-47s? I don't see how we could "lose" 200,000 guns. Nor do I understand why we would be shipping the main weapon of the insurgents out there, well, yes I do. It would look kinda fishy if the insurgents came to battle with M-16s wouldn't it?

WAKE UP AMERICA!

 

I'm wary of any attempts to legislate a more 'moral' society -- morality is individual and has little to do with legality. And, frankly, I'd prefer to live in an 'immoral' society with brothels on every street corner and pornography filling the airwaves (as tiresome as that would be) where people are free to live their lives as they see fit. The current model where any behavior even slightly different from the perceived 'normal' has been legally curtailed over the past 200-odd years leaves something to be desired.

The core of the problem really is that the government has legislative power to begin with. The only rights we have left are those that the constitution is very specific about, including the Second Amendment. Any part of it that is even a little bit vague has been gutted by Congress (9th and 10th amendments, anyone?).

The Founding Fathers should have stopped amending the Constitution after the first five words of the First Amendment.

 

Ahh, I was born in California and wanted to move back one day.....so much for that plan.

 

Use it or lose it. I'd show my dad's picture here but I don't want to hurt his feelings. He was in the Marine Core, high school line backer, and he could lift the back end of a car, but then he became a respitory therapist......no manual labor there.

 

I read about the proposed bill some time ago. I mentioned it in some Colorado & California forums, and the response was... it was being fought, and should be defeated...... I gues not...

That's the same reason I picked up my AR15, because I'm sure if Democrates get all the offices next election, I'm sure the Assult Ban will go back in place.

As Chuuk pointed out, this will not make one bit a difference. If anything, I'm sure the few gun ranges left open in CA will have some issues. Every LEGAL gun owner will sure enough want to pick up their BRASS. Since the ranges make some money off the Brass as well as the range fees, I'm sure the fees will go up. Just another back door method of shuting things down.

I work for one of those large companies that is benefiting from the war. Yep, there might be some profits, but also, the lose of several employees has also happened, and that lose is far greater than the profits.

You know, if those AKs had microstamping, they probably won't be used, since we could track them. That would sure scare them folks.....

We are lucky to have Rights here in this country, however, as each little chunk gets taken away, it becoming a place where the government will tell me what I can eat, say, do, smoke, weigh, .... wait... they are starting to do that now.... 1984 might have been just off a few decades....
At least until I go, I will continue to fight for keeping my rights. Vote and be vocal, at least until everyone has accepted full government rule and then, we will all lose.

Have a nice day.....