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Anyone work for USPS?

Discussion in 'General Open/Public Discussion' started by Brokentusk, 8 Aug 2009.


  1. Brokentusk

    Brokentusk DragonWolf

    My son took a test for a job, the score was 77.5 but they didn't give any kind of info on if that was bad or good or indifferent.

    The job sounded like a suk-fest (not the good kind) but it isn't like there is a lot of choices when you are 19 and suddenly realize that "maybe Dad was right about going to college afterall."
     
  2. at 19 theres still plenty of time to go to college. Perhaps a job or too in suckfest will remind him of that. On the flilp side, I know many people succesful with ambition and a good idea without college. Good luck to your son regardless, we all want the best for our children. I have no idea about usps tests however.
     
  3. Brokentusk

    Brokentusk DragonWolf

    Well I got him to go to trade school and he started making airplanes for $15 an hour.

    Then the economy went south. He was safe until some idiot senators bitched about private jets. I guess they don't realize normal people put them together.
     
  4. ORANGE

    ORANGE DragonWolf

    I heard the USPS is actually a pretty cushy job once you get some years in.

    On side note as someone who has only part of his schooling done I can say going to suckfest didn't really motivate me to go back to college, it motivated me to get out and do my own thing. Before some health issues I had a pretty good business running doing network installations for small businesses. Personally my hope is that he finds the same motivation.
     
  5. symen

    symen DragonWolf

    Some of my family works for USPS, and it is a good job, even if it's not particularly interesting. No idea about the test, though I can try to find out.

    Nothing wrong with going to college at 19 or 20, after figuring out the hard way that low-level scutwork sucks. I did it, and I turned out okay.

    (/me twitches and drools on self)

    Really, I turned out fine! :p

    That sucks about his job building planes, though -- that sounds like a lot of fun. I doubt a couple of senators bloviating killed the company, though; it's probably just the general downturn.
     
  6. Brokentusk

    Brokentusk DragonWolf

    Thanks Symen.

    Actually the day after the senators made their comments, there was panic on the shop floor because corporations were canceling their plane orders like it was an olympic event.

    Before the comments the orders were shaky, but there. After the comments, the customers didn't want to get caught asking for a hand-out with a 10 million dollar plane on order, they cancel. They were willing to sit on most of the orders since they were 2-3 years out from planes actually delivering. The company my son worked for went from 7 years worth of orders to 7 months. Poof.

    Sure they had laid off quite a few before his round, but they had been done with layoffs until that wonderful moment.
     
  7. Hamma

    Hamma Commanding Officer Officer

    Officer
    Man that sucks :|

    Duct tape for government officials mouths should be mandatory.
     
  8. symen

    symen DragonWolf

    No problem!

    I found out a bit about the test: Any score of 70% or more puts you into the pool for consideration, and it can take anywhere from three to nine months to get an interview.

    Good luck! :D
    Ow, that does suck. Strange, though, that 92% of their business came from such a narrow segment of the economic sector (specifically, finance and automotive companies requesting government assistance).

    Do you agree with the government using taxpayer money to bail out failed companies? If so, do you think that the government should be allowed to set conditions on the disbursement of said money, or do you think that they should play a more acquiescent role? Just curious here; the recent gun-rights discussion was less interesting than it could have been because everyone essentially agreed with everyone else, and this has the potential to be an interesting topic.

    How are we going to be able to vote them out of office if they can't say stupid things? :p
     
  9. Hamma

    Hamma Commanding Officer Officer

    Officer
    :lol:
    I really think the Government should have stayed out of the entire mess. The auto companies and banks likely would have folded which obviously would have sucked. However - when the government starts getting involved in private operations of companies it's a very slippery slope. The free market should be allowed to operate freely, they shouldn't be able to grab a bailout when things take a shit for them.
     
  10. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

    I agree with Hamma here. Free market is just that: its free. You are free to make choices but man-up and take the consequences of the bad choices, especially if they are idiotic choices. Stop yelling for Uncle Sam to bail you out when the market fails to support your dumb decisions. Let them fail and let the free market system police itself.

    Whenever the government gets a hand in something it never removes that control. GM will never be the same. The banking system will only get worse now that the government has entered into the management aspect of it.

    The one thing to understand is that the US Government is one of the only entities that is allowed to constantly run in a deficit and not pay any penalties. If we were to run a corporation like that, we would be called dishonest at best, and criminals in the end. Why does the government feel it can require others to be profitable when it cannot manage it? It is the epitome of hypocrisy.
     
  11. symen

    symen DragonWolf

    Guys, how can we have a nice argument if we keep agreeing with eachother?! :mad: :p

    Hamma is likely correct in assuming that the banks and auto companies would likely have folded without a bailout, and the consequences for the economy would be quite serious. I think it would be a good thing in the long run, though.

    Remember, though, that in a truly free market (which is nowhere close to where we are, or have been for a long time), if company X were to go under, there would be no bankruptcy law to carve up their assets in an orderly manner, they would simply cease to exist as a company, and have to negotiate the payment of their debts with the respective holders of them. Actually, company X wouldn't have existed as such in the first place; corporations themselves are a creation of the government, specifically designed to create a legal body (see the latin root of the word: "corpus") without a soul in order to shield the real people from financial liability for the losses of the corporation. So, really, in a free market, when the people who make up company X run out of money, they all have to negotiate the settlement of their debts with the other individuals who hold them. Or, to put it another way, whenever the economy started to recess, we would start to see a lot of great deals on personal cars, houses, etc. on eBay, so that all the owners and employees of company X could settle their collective debt.

    The end result of this sort of thing would likely be that businesses, and the overall economy, would be much smaller and simpler. I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing in the long term, though getting from here to there is a pretty messy problem to think about.
     
  12. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

    Well stated Symen, as usual. I would absolutely love to see that system be in place. But we will probably never see it.
     
  13. symen

    symen DragonWolf

    There you go again with the agreeing. :p

    How about the health care debate? I think the solution should simply be to ban all forms of health insurance, as insurance allows for costs to soar to the point where health care is unaffordable without it. Someone must disagree with that! :rawr:
     
  14. Brokentusk

    Brokentusk DragonWolf

    Thanks Symen!
     
  15. Brokentusk

    Brokentusk DragonWolf

    Also it wasn't just the automotive and finance guys. Any industry that thought they would be shown in a bad light for having a plane on order dumped them. Insurance companies, small airlines, construction, anyone that didn't want their stocks to get hammered when some talking head pointed out they had a couple planes on order.
     
  16. Brokentusk

    Brokentusk DragonWolf

    The kid got his call for his next level of testing.
     
  17. symen

    symen DragonWolf

    Nice, grats!
     
  18. Brokentusk

    Brokentusk DragonWolf

    All those days of Guitar Hero and IM will finally pay off. He has to 10-key.
     
  19. Brokentusk

    Brokentusk DragonWolf

    Fail whale. He over estimated his mad 10-key-skillz. Ineligible and can't retake until December. Ah well.
     
  20. fail 10-key? what, what.......why back in my data entry days we did 14,000 kph with one hand....and liked it!!

    that's ok, if you don't work with data entry and then try to keep up with people that used to do it for a living, you soon realize how slow you really are. Keying for 8, sometimes 10-12 hours a day really take a toll on you, as well as messing up your wrists, which is why I don't do that anymore. Now, I can tell you if it was just numbers I used the 10-key pad, addresses I used the numbers above the letters and would still average about 120WPM alpha-numeric on a daily basis, 10-key was always faster because, well, because that's all it is.

    I had a chance to work as a temp worker in Phoenix doing the keying for them but declined because I was done with keying for a living.

    Tell him to try and find a temp job somewhere just doing data entry and get some experience that way. If not, try and find a 10-key exam and just have him pound out those numbers until he dreams about them.
     
    Last edited: 25 Aug 2009

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