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Discussion in 'General Open/Public Discussion' started by ShadowSpawn, 20 Oct 2009.


  1. Some interesting bites from history

    They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so
    families used to all pee in a pot & then once a
    day it was taken & sold to the tannery.......if
    you had to do this to survive you were "Piss
    Poor"
    But worse than that were the really poor folk
    who couldn't even afford to buy a pot......they
    "didn't have a pot to piss in" &
    were the lowest of the low

    The next time you are washing your hands and complain
    because the water temperature isn't just how you like
    it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts
    about the 1500s:


    Most people got married in June because they took their
    yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by
    June.. However, since they were starting to smell . .. .
    Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.
    Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting
    married..

    Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man
    of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then
    all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the
    children. Last of all the
    Babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually
    lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw
    the baby out with the Bath water!"

    Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no
    wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get
    warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs)
    lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and
    sometimes the animals would slip an d fall off the roof.
    Hence the saying "It's raining cats and
    dogs."

    There was nothing to stop things from falling into the
    house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs
    and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed.
    Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top
    afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came
    into existence.

    The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other
    than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The
    wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the
    winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to
    help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added
    more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all
    start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the
    entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.

    (Getting quite an education, aren't you?)

    In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big
    kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit
    the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly
    vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the
    stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold
    overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew
    had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence
    the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas
    porridge in the pot nine days old.

    Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel
    quite special.. When visitors came over, they would hang up
    their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man
    could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off
    a little to share with guests and would all sit around and
    chew the fat.

    Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high
    acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food,
    causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with
    tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were
    considered poisonous.

    Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the
    burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and
    guests got the top, or the upper crust.

    Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination
    would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days.
    Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and
    prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen
    table for a couple of days and the family would gather
    around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake
    up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.

    England is old and small and the local folks started
    running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up
    coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse
    the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins
    were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they
    realized they had been burying people alive. So they would
    tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the
    coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.
    Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night
    (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone
    could be, saved by the bell or was considered a dead
    ringer...

    And that's the truth...Now, whoever said History was
    boring ! ! !
     
  2. Om

    Om DragonWolf

    I enjoyed that! thank you, shads.
     
  3. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

    :lol:

    Awesome.
     
  4. symen

    symen DragonWolf

    Ooh, I love word origins! Thanks for posting! I know a couple of these are incorrect, essentially "folk-etymology" invented whole-cloth by some creative person.

    On "piss-poor", the usage of the word "piss" as an intensifier first occurred quite recently, probably the late 1930's or early 1940's. "Dirt poor" as a saying is from the early 19th century.

    "Empty the baby out with the bathwater" was first seen in English in an early 20th century George Bernard Shaw play, and is a direct translation of the contemporary (at the time) German saying "Das kind mit dem bade ausschütten".

    As an aside, 16th-century hygiene was mostly influenced by the Spanish Inquisition. People lived in an ostentatious state of filth to avoid being accused of Judaism.

    The saying "Bring home the bacon" originated in the early 20th century.

    Tomatoes were erroneously considered to be poisonous because the leaves, stems, and unripe fruit actually are toxic. The tomato plant is a member of the genus Solanum (nightshade) and contains the toxin solanine. Ripe tomatoes are, of course, harmless, and perhaps even delicious.

    Not sure about the rest.
     
  5. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

    This is an interesting note because the Jewish people were exceptionally hygienic due to the instruction given them in the Old Testament. This also included their dietary laws. They were mostly unaffected by many of the diseases of the time and were actually accused of witchcraft and devilry, when in fact it was their strict adherence (in most cases) to these biblical instructions that kept them healthy.

    One instruction I find interesting directs the Hebrew to "put a covering upon his upper lip" (Lev. 13:45) when dealing with a person who is possibly diseased, which in essence is like a surgical mask. This is startling considering microbiology wasn't exactly a science then!
     
  6. symen

    symen DragonWolf

    Interesting! I wasn't aware of this particular passage...
     
  7. Brokentusk

    Brokentusk DragonWolf

    Check out Panati's books. They are filled with this kind of stuff. Just look for Panati on Amazon.
     
  8. This was just a make you smile post, hope it alteast did that hehe
     
  9. symen

    symen DragonWolf

    It did. :D
     

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