SWtOR Crafting and pvp

*updated* SWtOR Crafting and pvp

The crafting elements sound interesting, the pvp we've heard before, but it's nice that they're going to have battleground style pvp, along with other pvp elements from the start.

http://darthhater.com/2010/11/05/swtor-pvp-warzones-crafting-revealed/

 

Skills, crafting, gathering, or why you'll never have to farm for mining nodes again

I really like the companion characters idea and how they fit into crafting.. Sending them on missions to gather, loot, and influence.. Like Bioware has taken some ideas from EVE, and that's a good thing..

Interesting stuff..

 

A video highlighting the crew skills aspect..

http://www.swtor.com/info/systems/crew-skills

 

Nice to see that crafting also shouldn't be as marginalized in SWtOR as it seems to be in WoW..

 

A sad example of that is WoW and how there are a limited number of people with the resources to make some of the highest end gear in the game. Some of it now is equal to or better a lot of what drops in everything but the highest level raids.
A lot of engineer schematics that others could use were not widely available either, due to cost and resources required. The problem with WoW is it's all about grinding as you said.

EVE is a better example. My character to this day still has blueprints for materials and ships/equipment found and invented that he still can't use because none of my characters at all have the required non-combat skills to make. That and you have to have a veritable vault of specific materials to make it.
Is it impossible to do? No. It will however take a tonne of focus on a part of the game that makes what you do very niche. So forget about combat ships and flying around if you're skilling up for invention and manufacturing. Hence why many people have multiple accounts.

Last alliance I was in is still going strong, and was at 2200 people, and there were all kinds of things they couldn't produce and had to buy off the market for ridiculous prices, or figure something out with an older more established alliance. Out of 2200 people you can't find one who can make certain items? When you fully understand how complex the market/crafting system is in EVE, it makes perfect sense. You end up being the one who can consistently make those T2 rigs or T3 modules, you're "the" person to come to, and on the market you can set your own prices.

You don't need to make up items to make crafting valuable. The more indepth you make it, as well as the random nature of getting schematics/blueprints; I can completely see how they'd be able to have characters being one of few who can make more and more rare items. Especially if they have to steer their character development in that direction. All they have to do is make the crafting experience a) valuable and b) random/indepth enough and yes, you will find guilds that don't necessarily have someone who can make everything at their fingertips.

Not everything has to be an oversimplified WoW experience.

 

I think that's what they're probably aiming for Hamma, something in between.. EVE market/crafting is a bit ridiculous and impossible to get really into if you aren't already a deeply established player. WoW is so simple it's almost stupid; the complexity coming from raiding rarity of recipes/ingredients, and a broken auction house.

Make the craftables useful and not instantly obsolete by drops from dungeons/missions.
Make it involved enough that it can't just be done with a couple ingredients and a 14 second click of the mouse move.

I think then they'll have a system that comes close to what they're talking about and will be a nice departure from WoW..

I like that you don't have to physically go around farming for ingredients or recipes as well. Options to keep you playing not gathering.

 

Players can gather, but essentially you seem to be able to offload the "grind" of farming onto your companions, which is excellent. I think if you want to actually gather tons of materials though you will have to resort to farming, but for those of us who want to play the game, and not some gathering simulator, it's a nice step forward..

It'd be nice to see a game with some of the EVE balance that either some of the best or at least most common items in the game are crafted.

 

A bit more on crafting.. I like how he says near the end, that even if you don't like crafting per se', you can still skill your crew up with missions and abilities for say, finding loot, or influence..

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