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To: WoW Players on Twisting Nether

Discussion in 'General Open/Public Discussion' started by Lochborne, 13 Nov 2005.


  1. I will not attempt to make excuses for my actions on Sunday night. Please remember that nothing written here is intended to offend in any way. Regrettably, tone of voice and inflection are not transferrable through our current writing system, although I doubt that would have improved the situation on Sunday. A few of you may know a little of what went on, and this really isn't for you. Only one of you knows most of what transpired and it is for him/her that this is intended. The rest of you can read further and learn a little more or go about your business.
    Wildrose,
    Please accept my apologies for my uncouth and hard-headed behavior. I was suffering from a high degree of mistrust and pride. Though I would like to assure you that it was entirely out of character I realize that first impressions are, well... most important. They can be misleading or a revelation of character. I would like to discuss with you my personal history at a later date if you so permit... privately and assuming that I am forgiven, which I cannot rightly expect; as well as state that the first impressions that I had were rather confusing and frustrating for me. This in NO WAY excuses my behavior, which was at best childish and arrogant.
    Unfortunately I was only thinking about myself. Now I have jeopardized the playing experiences of my friends who will suffer the consequences of my actions. I am not so ego-centric that I believe that I will persuade many to leave your guild and follow me, but there are specifically two whom I have placed in such an akward position. We do need competent, friendly, and active players, more than just our little trio. For placing them there I apologize to them as well.
    I misundersood and still do not comprehend the full breadth of intentions involved in forming this new guild on another server.
    My experience with guilds who require interaction on a website is baffling. My impressions (I should say my old impressions) of people who have their own websites are that they themselves are on an ego trip and wish only to make themselves look good. It is a mistaken prejudice and I do understand now, by the reasoning laid out to me by my friend, why this is done and specifically why this is done in a large clan. To the world of MMORPG's I am relatively new, with only around three months under my belt.
    In retrospect, my conduct has effectively precluded the development of our relationship and will continue to do so without your forgiveness. I wished to penitently squash my pride before you publicly to assuage any hard feelings between us and this was the only thing I could think of that would accomplish that end. I wish to demonstrate my willingness to be considered for a position in your guild. Even if that is an impossibility at this point, I would not feel right leaving things as they are. So I ask your forgiveness at the least and hope steadfastly and longingly for the day that we may be acquainted once more.
    There was an individual whose name I cannot recall, to whom I referred a communication about Wildrose. It started with an 'S' and had a 'y' and 'g' in it somewhere. I would like to apologize to you as well for bringing you into a situation that you didn't deserve to be in, that is... well I was a child in word and action. Please accept my apologies.
    Lastly, because I may not have the chance to make complete amends and I may be denied access to speak here ever again, I want those of you spectators who are reading this to experience vicariously the effects of rash and rude behavior, to see what it takes to even attempt to put things right, and to learn to be careful of which face you put forward at all times.
    Jonathan "Lochborne" Andrews
     
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  2. Jonathan,

    I am one who knows nothing of which you speak.

    As I feel you now know, the requirement to participate here is to better build a sense of community and fellowship. We are a bit selective about who we choose to game with and this is one way to get to know those who wish to join us.

    We of CDL are very big on Honor. I see your post as an Honorable deed.

    Migs (Wildrose), I am sure, will have some reply.

    Good luck in your travels.
     
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  3. I also know now of what happened last evening. I'm with evilslayer on this one though and think you posted a well writen and honorable post. Your action on these fourms fall in line with CDL. I wish you best in what ever the outcome is.
     
  4. i dont' know what happend but a respectable post lochborne...humility is often a trait that runs in conjunction with honor...i believe you have have shown that in your words...good luck in whatever the outcome might be :)


    Loisshipwinch (btw...someone report my name so i can change it to something a bit shorter ;) )
     
  5. Peabodi

    Peabodi BANNED

    Paragraphs man!

    I was there for that bit of drama yesterday. I'm sure Wildrose will appreciate the apology.
     
  6. If something happened, then it does concern the majority of us. We're fairly picky about the attitudes of people who are in CDL. Then again, you're measured against me.. and it is fairly hard to consistantly be worse behaved than I am.

    Mignonne (Wildrose) is a fairly forgiving person.. again.. she puts up with me time and time again. Appologizing and asking for people to try to look past it is always a plus.

    Easily fixed by talking =P

    We use forums due to the mass of games that we play. There are many people in CDL that you have never spoken to because we play other games. The biggest difference between this gaming family and other big groups I've seen is that there is a huge 'core' of players that tend to migrate from game to game. Our divisions are not very seperate. I occassionally play wow, bf2 and check out new games CDL plays... I'm not really part of one specific division. Which is why we have forums, I can't keep up with all these games and what's going on in them without the forums and knowing the other people well.

    It's been a while since I've seen a request thought and typed out as well as this.

    In light of this post, I doubt you won't have the chance to speak here again.... unless Hamma goes on a nazi-ban spree again. That usually results in some collateral damage bannings that are quickly fixed. All in all, you seem to be well intentioned and truely misunderstood the situation. Although already mentioned, we like the word 'Honor' a lot and tend to strive to apply it's meaning to ourselves, our clan-mates, the people we deal with in-game and our actions in-game. If you have not read other parts of the site and havn't spoken to anyone about it.. CDL has been around for.. what.. almost 8 years now? Most of these people have known each other for a very long time, many having met each other multiple times. The forums arn't so much a requirement than us wanting to know our fellow gamers as well as we can.
     
  7. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

    :love: Cyrus
     
  8. okay...where is cyrus and what have you done with him? ;)
     
  9. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

    :lol: No kidding! I was floored!
     
  10. Peabodi

    Peabodi BANNED

    I stole Cyrus' account for a brief period and made that post. I figured Cyrus has a bad reputation so I would make him look good for once. I'm sure he appreciates it.

    I'll talk to Wildrose for you Lochborne, she always listens to yours truly. She has very strong feeling for me. She is devoted in her love for me.
     
  11. Sorry.. I was sleep-typing... nightmare about being normal....
     
  12. It is amazing how often these forums make me proud to just be a member of Clan Draconus Lupus! The postings here have all made a deep personal impact on me. I have no idea what happened, but I love the way it will be resolved. As a clan member, I suspect I even know the end results. Death by smiles perhaps? Regardless:

    Hail Dragonwolves!
     
  13. Peabodi

    Peabodi BANNED

    A little Mignonne smiley death would be a good closer to this thread, but I hear she is phasing out smileys in favor of question marks.
     
  14. Lochborne,

    I thank you for your apology, it means alot and speaks volumes of your character that you would take the time to post one, much less a public one. It takes a big person to set things straight and to try to correct some misconceptions.

    I am sorry if there was some miscommunication between what you were told and what i was telling you, that had caused you to react in such a way.

    This is my Family, My home. Honor is of the the utmost importance. without that what do we have?

    Let me enlighten you as to our "intentions" in forming a guild over here, as they are quite simple. We are here to have fun! Period. This came about quite by accident one day, after twisting nether was opened as a new "rp" "pvp" server. Someone said, hey lets start a Pirate guild :) okay, sure sounds fun, horde are easy button, lets give it a try. It was started with fun and temporary diversion in mind, nothing stable. We joined a "pirate" guild, and found that "Arr matey" could only be said so many different ways, and we thought, what the heck, lets start our own guild. So we started this guild called the Crimson Horde. It was a few of us from CDL, and some randome wonderful people we ran into on Twisting Nether, and it was slowly a snowball effect in its forming. We gathered more members all the time, Everyone was having fun. It was a new economy so things were fresh, and it was horde, almost all of us played Alliance before this, so the quests were new, and for some of us playing Alliance for almost a year now, it was a much needed change. Then, having an alliance with stacked deck, and quite a few of them being wonderful and great guys, found out that some of us were playing over here, and came over, at the same time this is going on, We decided to officially turn our Crimson Horde guild into a CDL division since by this time there are now TONS of Cdl playing over here. So now we are the Dragonwolf Clan. The members that were in Stacked Deck that have came over, applied to our forums, and read our CoC and understand this. In anycase, Dragonwolf Clan grows stronger every day. We have a very rich and strong heritage behind us. There was not any premeditated oh, lets just everyone drop LS and come over here and play and say to hell with everyone over there. There was not any "merger" other than some friends saying, hey you guys are having fun, we want to come and have some fun too, can we? Are we set in the mind of doing some great things over there, since it has evolved into something quite nice and cool? Hell yes we are :). to the point of sacraficing what we are? NO.

    If after reading all of this, and finding our CoC (code of conduct) and reading that you still are of the mind that you think you are Dragonwolf Material, then please feel free to message me in game, so that we might set up a time to talk. I make no promises as to the outcome of such a talk, but i am willing to listen and be reasonable. I do not believe in wasting your time or mine if you truely are not instrested. :) :) :)
     
  15. Bryn

    Bryn <font color="red">World of Warcraft Division</font

    I counted 4 ?'s to 5 :) in the above post ... Indeed it appears as if the smiley faces are slowly dying.
     
  16. dont make me bust out the smilies :)

    :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


    they shall not ever die!! :)
     
  17. wow is serious business
     
  18. Trygve

    Trygve <font color="red">World of Warcraft Division</font

    It did seem like last night was a bit out of character for you.

    You stay classy Lochborne ;)
     
  19. Peabodi

    Peabodi BANNED

    He was role playing Trygve. Twisting Nether is, after all, a RP-PVP server. I have a feeling Lochborne is going to be one of those people that likes to take off run mode and slowly walk along the coasts of Azeroth RPing his/her little heart out.
     

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