AMD vs Intel

I like Intel becuase I have had good luck with them but AMD is a better processer, it has a shorter pipline. Which means less CRC checking and less time taken up looking missing information.

The down side is the AMD doesn't support as much cache as Intel does in their level 2 cache. Intels is 512KB and AMD is 256 I believe. Plus AMD has just broken the 2 GHZ line. They should get better with the Barton Core (Forgive my spelling). THe AMD only supports a 266 MHZ front side bus where Intels is a 533 MHZ front side bus.

You also run into programs that were designed for the Intel processer so you wouldn't see the same speed on an AMD.

Cost wise AMD is the way to go.

If you go Intel make sure it has the Northwood core. THat has the best performance out of the P4 chip.

Hope that hasn't confussed you even more. If it helps I'm running 2.53 GHZ Intel at Home and 1.6 GHZ AMD at work. T2 runs just as fast on both machines. Granted I'm running GeForce 4 TI in both.

 

i am presintly doing the same thing groovie so ill be r4eading also but i am looking at 1.6 gig or so to keep the cost doun that should be 2 times the comp i have at 800.

i also have a qwestion abaut vid cards i have a GF2 but want the extra bells and whistels a GF4 will give me now the GF4 128 gose for abaut 189 and up but i have seen GF4 64 meg for abaut 70 bucks now that would save me over 100 buks but will it be beter than my presint GF2 card get the extra deatail that the GF4 promises.i realy do want to see the new cool grafiks in DOaC that my presint card dus not seem to suport????

also some of the build it yore self comps i see out there for the cheeper prices have on bord grafiks now i dont want that i want a GF4 but do some ore all of thees bords also suport vid cards .i saw a pictcher of one that aperd to have a agp slot on it ???

iv also ben told that AMD run hoter than Pentium prosesors is this true???

 

/sigh

Ok. Its really quite simple. They are both good chips, it comes down to personal preferance. Some people just like one brand. That said if you buy a top the line Intel System and a top of the line AMD System your Intel box is going to be faster. Intel has the performance edge. But then again your AMD is going to be quite a bit cheaper.

So its always the question of Price versus performance. Personally when pricing out boxes I end up going with AMD because its going to save me a few hundred bucks.

Schrike, if you get a graphics card I would go with the GeForece 4 4200 with 128Mb. With luck you can get a good price.

All motherboards support pretty much all graphics cards. The AGP slot is the slot your graphics card goes into. In February the next generation of NVIDIA (GeForce) cards are due out. So you can expect a price drop on old GeForce 4 boards some time soon.

AMD does generally run hotter. This problem was somewhat lesseded with the XP chipset. But personally I have never had an issue with it. If you are running your computer at standard speed (not over clocked) which is what 99% of computer users do (myself included) then you will have no trouble with heat. As long as you try to keep the inside of you computer a little dust free and try to keep all the cables out the way it will be smooth sailing.

Er.....not sure what else you guys want. Its pretty easy to match components.

Personal preferances:

I like ASUS motherboards and components. They tend to make good stuff at a good price.

I like AMD because its a bit cheaper.

Good graphics card and extra RAM will give you the most significant performance boosts. But I wouldn't go above 512MB RAM, you wont see a large increase after that point....at least not a cost effective one.

Hope that helps some. When it comes down to it everyone has their own bias. You need to buy what you are comfortable with and learn from your mistakes

 

There is no right answer. Bottom line is this

1. More power for less money = AMD
2. Slightly better stability = INtel

Personally, I tend to go with AMD becuase I like to twink and tinker and can handle it all, and I dont have lots of extra cash. But for my computer illiterate relatives I generally go with intel, because I dont want to be hassled by them for technical issues.

 

Essentially as long as you buy tier1 motherboards you should be ok. These include:

Abit
Epox
Gigabyte
MSI
Asus

Shuttle isn't really Tier1 but they still make good stuff.

If I was getting a mb I would take a look at Epox and then Asus, but thats just me.

 

Tally another vote for Intel!


Just recently I got a shuttle SB51G (SFF), with an Intel 2.4B cpu....... works great.....

as for my "game machine" an AMD 1.2 thunderbird (MSI motherboard, have also tried an ABIT), I have had so many battles with un-explainable erros - I've just given up...... I hope to "upgrade" to another shuttle SFF before Planetside hits the scene

 

Heh I choose AMD because it's cheaper and offer similar capabilities for about half the cost. That's the only reason I do. Intel is too expensive for me.

 

Mobo, i'd say Soltek, but nobody knows about them . Another note, AMD is cheaper than intel for not that much of a noticable performance, (Do you really think a 40 year old who uses a computer for e-mail and word prossecing can tell the difference between an AMD Athlon XP 2100+ and an Intel Pentuim 4 at whatever it's fastest chip is at.) I'm sure people want more megahurtz just for the ego thing: Remember kids, the more megahurtz you have, the bigger your penis is.

 

My 2 AMD systems are super stable

Then again both my laptops are too, which run on Intel cpus :/

 

this may not be totally correct, but I think when they benchmarked two similar in speed cpu's the intel out performed it from anywhere in the range of 8% to 21%. I went with amd since I built my first pc. I am on my third now, and never have had a problem with it. Like stated eariler, it is pretty much preference to what you want.


ASUS is the way to go with mobo, but have you tried maybe soyo? They seem to come out with a few nice boards.

In the way of ram, I went with mushkin.....do not go generic with the ram. You get what you pay for. I would much rather go out and spend a little more on name brand ram knowing that it will last a while.


Will you be going with dual HD's? If you do this, will you be going with raid configuration?



my specs:
AMD 2000+
Asus A7V333 MOBO w/raid config
512 meg pc2700 ddr ram
dual IBM 80gig hard drives
GF4 Ti4400 128 meg vid
soundy blaster audigy sound card
raid stripe 0 array

 

My vote : Intel

Reason: I had both Intel and AMD in the past. AMD has always had heat issues for me. The internal temp was above my comfort level, requiring me to add a 2nd fan. More noise.

As far as performance, it was pretty much a wash.

 

i been holding out for a nforce2 mobo. it'll be my 2nd amd setup. i've had intel since my first pute. my current setup is amd and its worked fine for me, havent had any major problems that i couldnt fix with drivers

 

If you dont really know what raid is Groovie, dont worry about it, Most general computer users dont. There are several raid configurations and really only one is of any interest to gamers. Thats the type of raid setup that uses two hard drives (have to be the same size and preferably the same make and model). What happens is that you store the same data on both hard drives and therefore can access that data twice as fast. Althought thats the theory, it doesnt really work Twice as fast, and if setup wrong can actually slow your system down. My advice is to forget any hype you hear about Raid and stick with a single hard drive. But, If you realy want to know all about Raid and the different kinds of Raid configurations, then I point you to this article by Anandtech at
Raid Configurations explained

Personally, If i was to go with an AMD setup currently, I would go for a the Nforce2 chipset and probably get the A7N8X motherboard by Asus. Get two DDR memory chips and run in dual ddr mode. I would probably use the onboard sound and if money was no object go for a ATI Radeon 9700 video card. Top it off with the new XP processors that run on a 333 FSB (XP 2600+ and higer) and your smoking.