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Ok, One Last time Fantasy Books

Discussion in 'General Open/Public Discussion' started by Rayzer, 4 Oct 2004.


  1. Okay, once and for all I need a new list of books to read. There are rules! No books that are not fantasy, fantasy as in wizards and knights and olden times, not as in sci fi, and not as in "tuches ur leg". I am also not into "series books" as in Dragonlance, D&D, etc. Books that are a series are fine, "Wheel of Time", etc.

    I have read and pretty much exhausted the following authors, I'll probably forget some but here goes from memory, please ignore spelling mistakes:

    George R.R. Martin
    David Gemmell
    David Eddings
    Robert Jordan
    Tolken
    Terry Goodkind
    Elizabeth Hayden
    Sara Ash
    Raymond E. Fiest
    Robin Hobb
    David Farland
    David Duncan (wts another David?)
    J.V. Jones
    Sara Douglass


    People I know of but don't really like/don't think I'll like:
    Ann McCaffery
    Terry Brooks
    Ed Greenwood (although I'll have to read the Band of Four novel again to be sure I don't like him, I don't remember too well).
    Whoever wrote Fifth Sorceress, way to much nasty sex in that book.


    I prefer flawed characters to perfect hero's.

    I really am at a loss what to read next, second last book I bought, sucks, last book I bought...I have already read, Ooops! I know I'm missing a lot, but hopefully someone with similar tastes will see enough to recommend something.
     
  2. Ok. You might check out Stephen R. Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. The first book in the series is Lord Foul's Bane. The protagonist is definately an anti-hero. There is a follow up series after that one.

    Also, maybe check out Janny Wurts series the War of Light and Shadow, the first book being Curse of the Mistwraith. I've read some of her stuff before, but not this series. I have the first two novels in the one i mentioned, but I've been reading other things and haven't gotten around to it. I'm not sure if this one will fit the bill, but I know that one of the main characters of a darker bent.

    If I think of something else, I'll post it.
     
  3. Also...check out Tad Williams. A great series of his is Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, the first book being The Dragonbone Chair.

    Also...check out Dennis L. McKiernan. I can't recommend this guy enough. He started writing a while ago, in the early 80's, and self proclaimedly was directly inspired by Tolkien. As such, his first series, The Iron Tower Trilogy, is very reminicent of Tolkien. It is still a great read though. The first book of this series is The Dark Tide. Other good series of his include The Silver Call Duology, the first book of which is Trek to Kraggen-Cor; Hel's Crucible Duology, the first book of which is Into the Forge; and another duology of sorts, but not a named series begins with Eye of the Hunter, and follows with Silver Wolf, Black Falcon. His stories are very dark in mood - his ability to create a mood and atmosphere is among the best I've read.
    McKiernan also has several other stand alone novels, and short stories that I've not read- I'll not list those here but you may want to check those out as well.
     
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  4. Ok... you might also check out L.E. Modesitt, Jr. I've only read one of his books, The Magic of Recluce - and it was many years ago. The system of magic that he uses is incredibly unique (at least to my knowledge). At the least I found the one novel that I read interesting and a good read, although I can't speak for the exact qualities of the protaganist (I'm a little fuzzy there).
     
  5. ORANGE

    ORANGE DragonWolf

    at first I thought that an edit button would have been a good idea but then I thought nah it looks better this way more organized
     
  6. "L.E. Modesitt, Jr."

    Not a fan of his writing style, actually read the first book in his big series. Anyone who writes out sounds "Thunder rumbled, 'Booooooooom'" is just annoying :p But I'll check on the rest :D

    And it's not necessarily poor heros that appeal to me...just flawed ones, you know, human :)

    That's why Gemmell is one of my favorite authors, great flawed characters :)
     
  7. Lol.... man I didn't remember that...its been a while...not sure If i'd have mentioned him if i did..... think i read him in about 8th grade.
     
  8. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

    You will love Thomas Covenant then. I loved the series and have read them 3 times now. The character just wants to make you scream, in his apparent powerlessness.
     
  9. Right you are about the frustration in regards to Thomas Covenant. I had thought that an "Anti-Hero" theme in a fantasy milieu might be really cool. Boy was I wrong~!
    (PS – did you catch the missing Haruchi chapter that Donaldson released in one of his short-story books? I cannot remember the title of the book. Mirror of Her Dreams maybe? I'm too lazy to do a Google search.) ;)

    I also like the wit that Glenn Cook used in his “Black Company” series as well as his “Garrett PI” series.

    ~PM~

    "Being an old cynic myself I have strong notions about the true value of human gratitude. It is a currency whose worth plunges by the hour."
    - Glen Cook
     
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  10. Sentrosi

    Sentrosi Protocol Officer Officer

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    Wow, no one mentioned anything about the most flawed hero in all of fantasy. Elric of Melnibone.

    Michael Moorcock is the author. Suggest picking up ANY books by this author if you're more of an Anti-Hero jist. Hawkmoon is an amazing tale, Nomad of the Time Streams is good too. Pretty much anything he has written I have read.
     
  11. I would recommend anything by R.A. Salvatore, but you aren't into the D&D stuff so that doesnt really work. I still highly recommend him as an author to anyone looking for a good, long, read. Really, it would be foolish to miss out.
     
  12. David Eddings all the way bro. Read The Elenium, thats my fav of all time.
     
  13. currently reading his bugerad series (excuse the spelling ;)). If fantasy is what you want does it matter if its not dragons and wizards fantasy?

    have you considered the Dark tower by Stephen King? its a 7 book series that the final book just came out last week. Its a GREAT read.
     
  14. Also, there is the Banned and the Bannished series by James Clemens. They are Wit'ch Fire, Wit'ch Storm, Wit'ch War, Wit'ch Gate, and Wit'ch Star. Nice dark read. The heroess has her failings, which fits with your flawed hero requrement.
     
  15. That is a great series, it's a trilogy, bu the third book is so long it's actually TWO paperbacks. Very literary in approach.

    One thing to note, the books have numerous long "ordeal" passages, where characters pass through long ordeals and have a lot of internal struggle. Think Frodo and Sam in Mordor. I didn't mind, but I know some people who put the books down because of that.

    And I like Modesitt. His style gets more mature as the series develops, and he is doing some other interesting things with the way he writes (when a character thinks something during a conversation with someone else, you actually miss part of what is being said while the main character's thoughts are elsewhere). He's a nice guy, met him at a book signing and talked with him for a half hour or so because there was no-one else at the signing at that point. He has definite ideas about fantasy and about writing, and uses those in his books.

    I also Like Don Callander's 'Mancer series. Very whimsical. It starts with Pyromancer. It falters by the time it gets to the book Marbleheart,, but before that it's fun.

    Also recommend Lyonesse, by Jack Vance. I think the first book has been retitled Lyonesse: Suldrun's Garden. Another literary take on fantasy. Powerful and challenging.
     
  16. On a related note, David Farland (mentioned earlier), the writer of the Runelords series has signed a deal with Orion Pictures a while back. I am skeptical on this becoming an actual movie as I have seen corporations perform 'IP holding' before (but then again, I haven't looked to see if any progress has been made on this).
    It would have been interesting to see how it would have turned out as a game, unfortunatley development team that possessed the rights went out of business. A sad situation, as they did good work at a good price and I liked them.

    Who knows what the future brings - depending upon the movie deal, perhaps a game might come of it yet. :D

    ~PM~
     
  17. The have a directory and an $80million budget, it's in preproduction and has an expected release date of late 2006. I just checked the Runelords website the other day, I never read Lair of Bones and decided to finally finish the series, but I accidentally bough Wizardborn again as I could not remember if I had read it or not. But I have forgotten so much that it's basically like reading it the first time.

    Anywho, I think I'll try Donaldon's Convanent books next, I started reading that book once before and really didn't like it, but I'll give it another shot and see if I can get into the story, I never read too much of it. At least their are a number of books to read if I do like it.

    Anywho, the more suggestions the better. One day I'm going to get all my books together and write them down so I know what I've read :)
     
  18. Sentrosi

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    Great author

    I've read both the Belgaraid and the Mallorean. Also picked up Belgarath the Sorceror for some background into him as well as Polgara the Sorceress. Want to go pick up the Rivan Codex too. I wonder if there is one out there for the other prophesy, the one Torak spewed forth out of his one eye.
     

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