Question: non consensual PVP VS "piracy"

I think we know too little about the process and the pvp slider that has been mentioned. I am under the impression that star systems in SC will be very large and you can easily not run into anyone else while exploring around it.


With that note I think I am just going to caveat all my response with a wait and see approach. I think a lot of speculation on the game mechanics are tainted by EvE, as it seems a lot of people (not just here) assume things will work the same, in regards to piracy, trade, and travel.

The devs appear to be making great effort for SC to not be the asshole simulator that is EvE Online, so I don't think we are going to end up in a lot of heated conflicts with anyone unless we really try to.


I am not calling anyone out for any assumptions; I know little of how the game will be, as does anyone outside the development team.



And to directly answer your question, I say we protect ourselves, but we should not attack other players who venture into areas we have claimed as it will establish a bad name for ourselves.

 

LoL not denying that, but Eve is at the top of the food chain as far as assholism can go in a videogame. I find it entertaining if you look up any list of biggest asshole moves in a videogame the list will comprise of usually no less than 25% of the entries being from Eve online

 

Not to sound all Socialist here, but my concern for the fighter is distribution of wealth. It needs to be made worth their while, or they end up doing all the hard work for a fraction of the profit since they are just guarding the big ships.

 

They have been a bit vague on that. I am of the understanding that the systems are just so large, you could easily hide away from players. Bu the instance thing does seem the logical move if they have a PvP slider. I think it is a bit hokey since the game can be played single player, you can host your own server (and mod it), or play the Public Server, I don't understand if people are so shy, why don't they just play single.

But it is what it is, and I think it is their only choice if they don't want the entire game to end up like Mad Max and the Thunderdome (like Eve)

 

So without me digging through all the informational threads, let me ask a few questions.

1. Do individual players stand a chance at enjoying the game?
2. Are people "flagged" for PvP?
3. Will there be the large corporations such as BoB or Goon Swarm raging throughout the universe like the Borg?

I am somewhat excited about the sandbox capabilities of this game, but I am also a bit traumatized by the Eve aspect realizing they are attempting to avoid it.

 

1. Do individual players stand a chance at enjoying the game? That are shooting for each player to enjoy themselves, remember that Chris Roberts is building the game he wants to play, take that how you will.
2. Are people "flagged" for PvP? All we know is there is a pvp slider, no specifics.
3. Will there be the large corporations such as BoB or Goon Swarm raging throughout the universe like the Borg? From what I have heard/been told, all instanced arears will have a cap of around 200 players (to preserve everyones fps) so Goons 1000+ players. while still annoying can't all pile into one system.

I am a little confused by your second part there about eve? Are you sad that they are trying to not copy aspects of eve?

 

Eve is an incredible game. It is as close to the "perfect" sandbox game as was pointed out in previous posts. But...there were some aspects that I found to be a bit hard to manage. Granted others may have enjoyed those and I get that. But if I wanted to play Eve I would.

My point is Wing Commander was quite honestly one of the funnest early games I ever played. I personally would like to see them bring in the sandbox aspects of Eve without it being Eve, so to speak. Design a Wing Commander universe similar to Eve without what I term the traumatizing aspects of Eve for those of us who can't invest the time.

I hope I clarified my thoughts a bit. Sorry I was a bit confusing in my comment! Thanks for the info, too!

 

Hmm, that makes sense. I may be limited to the inner rings of questing for a bit. Once again, thanks for the info.

 

Well I know SC is trying to trump Eve in terms of the most advanced economy in game (one of the better points of eve Online) But I think they are trying to prevent a lot of the asshattery that elements of the eve player base have made the game now infamous for.


And the only reason the game isn't Wing Commander online, is those jerks at Microsoft refused to fund the game and they own the rights. So we get a game that is visually very similar, but with different races and lore.

Also forgot to add, since the game is not an RPG in the traditional sense, there is no training of skills (which the Eve system is certaily a detractor to new players). So your only limit is your skill and your wallet (in game, and to a small extent outside)

 

Well, from what I have seen and read so far, Chris is making a great game. His vision for the game is certainly obvious and it appears he can pull it off. So whether it is the original Wing Commander or not, it is from all appearances going to be epic, and it certainly will have the "taste" of the Wing Commander series--that is obvious from the art.

 

While PvP is indeed non-consensual, you can mitigate your exposure to it (though not eliminate your exposure to it) through setting your PvP slider to a lower setting.