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The Disappointment in CDL

Discussion in 'General Open/Public Discussion' started by {{eMaGyN}}, 23 Jun 2002.


  1. Maybe it is because I am from a very close knit community that, in the beginning, was full of very sound minded and caring people, but tonight on your server was utterly...disappointing.

    Always behave in a way that puts the reputation of CDL first.
    Do not use foul language

    as stated from the CoC... I'm sorry but your server is far from the standard in which you hold your clan... some of your players are far from this aptitude you pronounce your clan to hold... It was completely surprising to be in that server and to be on a map (Dust to Dust ) where everyone exploded into complaints...
    "F this map"
    "Why is this Fin' map in the rotation"
    "God D Stop raping"

    It just makes a person look extremely uneducated when phrases like this are used... and i hoped I was dealing with people that were above that...
    Its ok to be frustrated and to get angry when people aren't making sense or listening to the only sound mind in the server, but going off on them only makes matters worse... Things escalated and it got bad.
    It turns out that the voting (which was spammed) to change maps on Dust to Dust did not pass... None of them passed.
    An admin was contemplating just changing the map themselves, but I said that if the vote doesn't pass then i wouldn't understand how changing the map would be the best choice since more people wanted to stay on Dust to Dust than to change...
    Gosh, Listen to me... writing all this about a few harsh maps on the CDL server... Heh, but I just want you to know that I do want to become a part of your community, The good community that I have been seeing these past few days, but not the one i saw tonight... and I just don't want tonight to become CDL entirely... So please don't take actions into your own hands when it can be voted on... and try to keep your distance from the frustrating aspect of the situation and deal rationally... instead of screaming at everything and anything... I don't really know who exactly all this was, but I'm sure it was a few CDL but the majority of the people were pubbers...
    I'm not doing this to get people mad at me... or mad at other people, so if you are... just please don't misunderstand.
    I want playing tribes to be FUN. CDL has a great group of people... don't lose sight of that again... your actions to contribute to this... persona that CDL is trying to uphold, just try to remember that.
    So please, no more cursing or... what i believe to be, abuse of admin power...
    Show me only :heart:
    I still wub joo guys... just don't be mean again.
    eMa
     
  2. By "abuse of adminship" I mean changing the map... and I don't think that it was thronebeast... he stayed collected through the thing...
     
  3. I'm sorry that you are unhappy with playing on CDL server. I am the one who changed the map. I changed the map from Dust to Dust to Boss(x). This isn't abuse of admin, it's actually normal and expected behavior for any server admin. The fact of the matter is, we had already lost about 1/2 of our players who had dropped off of the server when they found out what map had loaded. Competitive players don't stick around and play Dust to Dust. I was trying to keep more people from leaving than those who already had.

    If you go to any top base++ server, the map dust to dust isn't even in the rotation. The only reason the map came up tonight is because we haven't yet had a chance to remove it from the map rotation list. Hopefully, it will be removed completely and the only maps that do come up are those maps in the base++ 7 man ladder. Dust to Dust isn't in any league map rotation. There is no reason for anyone other than new players to T2 to stay and play it. If this were a pub server for "just anyone" I could understand, but it's not.

    The server has been reserved for a CDL base++ 7 man team. On a league. With specific maps we need to play. As such, we would like to try and focus on playing only the 7 man base++ maps. Dust to Dust unfortunately isn't one of them. The map was changed to a map that is on the ladder.

    The vote wasn't passing to change the map earlier because a majority of the people on the server weren't voting (yes or no, either way). From all the votes made there were at least 75% of the votes voting yes. I would have to say that is a clear majority. It's too bad there is a bug in T2 voting where ppl who don't vote automatically get a "no" vote entered for them. :( Most of them actually don't vote because they don't care. I had to go with the votes tallied that showed a clear majority of yes votes to get rid of Dust to Dust.

    BTW: I didn't hear any CDL player using profanity or cussing on the server. These were all random players who logged in to our server who were unhappy about Dust 2 Dust being loaded. While they were cussing, I don't think we can do anything about that.
     
  4. Om

    Om DragonWolf

    For future reference, when you have a complaint about admin on the server, you can e-mail us about it. Thanks.
     
  5. I've always thought that pubbing was meant for fun.
    And for some of us the map Dust to Dust is a fun map...
    The map "Dust to Dust" shouldn't really play a part, its just irks me that when votes weren't passing that the map was changed anyways by an admin because they "felt" as though that map wasn't liked by those players and would get more by changing the map... seems like a very undemocratic way to run a server... and it bothered me some.
     
  6. Actually, i am afraid i had to admit to having cursed at one point on Firestorm when our base got raped. Base raping after repeatedly telling people that we dont rape until 10v10 (which is standard) really frustrates me. I apologize, and will attempt to keep this in mind in the future. Oh, and do try to keep in mind that Dust to Dust has no inventories. Since it is our server (it is not advertised as a public server) we can change it if we like, however if it is a normal map you will never see us do this. Dust to Dust however gives NO oppourtunity for skill building, so it was changed.
     
  7. ok.

    Sowwie.

    :(
     
  8. Again, sorry eMaGyN about changing the map. I am told that they are working on some kind of map rotation list. So the maps we don't want to play won't come up at all. It should prevent players from loading into a map, and then having it changed on them.

    PS: I personally like Dust to Dust. But when you look at it's overall value on the ladders, it has none. That's why so many people wanted it changed.

    Thx!
     
  9. Last I remember, Dust to Dust was on the 7 man ++ ladder, or it's on one of the ladders.. I'm not sure... But it's hard to verify that now with TWL kicking the proverbial bit-bucket.

    As far as voting, there are people who are too lazy, but there are also people that realize their default vote is no, so it isn't entirely necessary for them to vote if they want to vote that way.

    As for the guys that were cussing on the server... if it was CDL .. Again .. we apologize. If it wasn't, then we can not control them, as we do not have a "No-Cussing" rule in place... -yet-...


    This server is brand new, and there are still kinks that need to be worked out before it can be running completely smooth.
     
  10. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

    Let me add my thoughts on this matter even though I was not present for this.

    Sky hit it the best in this whole topic. Please contact us by email so we may handle this situation in a little less public spot! :) I know not everyone will act as they should, and for that I apologize for the bad experience. We try to provide the best gaming ecperience with our warriors as possible, and we have always tried for the "family atmosphere" playing style.

    Raptormax had mentioned the "10vs10" no rape rule. To be honest, since the CDL is focusing on a 7vs7 team now, that really is not a player in this server. There will be base raping allowed at all levels of players.

    Also, h0micide mentioned that we are still tweeking the server. That too is correct. We still have some things to get sorted out!

    eMa.. you have begun to hang out with us and we have enjoyed having your skills and competitive edge in the mix. Feel free to contact myself or any of the others if you have any concerns! Thanks for your thoughts and observations!
     
  11. Hamma

    Hamma Commanding Officer Officer

    Officer
    I've been helpin out Throne with a map rotation. Id imagine he will have one up relitivly soon. As for swearing and admin abuse, Nutshot Comp 2 and a few other servers are 100x worse.

    CDL will admin an excellent server. Just give them some time to get things in order, and set rules in place :)
     
  12. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

  13. Great Dane

    Great Dane <B><FONT COLOR="RED">THE LEGENDARY BANNED</FONT></

    I only swear on Roger Wilco.
     
  14. does your voice sound like sccoby doo or astro?
     
  15. Great Dane

    Great Dane <B><FONT COLOR="RED">THE LEGENDARY BANNED</FONT></

    hmmmm......

    More like Astro I guess.
     
  16. I have a potty mouth :(

    But when I type messages I try to stick to Level 2 words like "hell" and "damn" and "crap" and the like.

    On RW I go with Level 1 words :D

    I really need to just turn my mic off so only my wife gets offended.
     
  17. Tbeast

    Tbeast Recruitment Officer Officer Elder

    Officer
    Ok , Thanks so much to Hamma , i got rid of some maps and i dont know what all TWL maps will be used , so i took some off that i know people dont play any more , and once TWL comeback up and i get a list i can re add maps.

    Also Like to take this time to think hamma SO MUCH for helping me get the server going .

    Much :love:
     
  18. l33t thanks tb
     
  19. Where is the new server located? What connection is it on? Is it actually a new server, or is this another big red server? What mods are you running/going to run on it? Im always interested in servers :)
    Fling :D
     
  20. Tbeast

    Tbeast Recruitment Officer Officer Elder

    Officer
    Fling ,

    The new server is being Hosted by

    http://www.onlinegaminghost.com , If i remember correctly , it's located in Atlanta Area , Its a 24 man pub running base ++

    Server Ip is 66.150.28.72 28001
     

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