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Discussion in 'General Open/Public Discussion' started by Ollive, 18 Sep 2002.


  1. LETTER:

    Mr. Ryan DeVries
    2088 Dagget
    Pierson, MI 49339

    SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County

    Dear Mr. DeVries:
    It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality
    that
    there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel
    of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or
    contractor
    who did the following unauthorized activity: Construction and maintenance
    of
    two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond
    A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity.
    A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been issued.
    Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation
    of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and
    Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being
    sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated.
    The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially
    failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at
    downstream
    locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and
    cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and
    desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a
    free-flow
    condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the
    stream channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than
    January 31, 2002.

    Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that
    our staff may schedule a follow-up site inspection. Failure to comply with
    this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result in
    this case being referred for elevated enforcement action. We anticipate and
    would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. Please feel free to
    contact me at this office if you have any questions.

    Sincerely, David L. Price

    District Representative Land and Water Management Division
    ******************************************************************

    RESPONSE:

    Dear Mr. Price:
    Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County

    Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond

    First of all, Mr. Ryan De Vries is not the legal landowner and/or
    contractor
    at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan. I am the legal owner and a couple of
    beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and
    maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring
    Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project,
    I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of
    natural building materials "debris." I would like to challenge your
    department
    to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any place you
    choose.

    I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam
    skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam
    persistence,
    their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic. As to your request,
    I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first fill out a dam
    permit
    prior to the start of this type of dam activity.My first dam question to
    you is
    (1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or
    (2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam
    request? If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers,
    through
    the Freedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those
    other
    applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we will see if
    there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of
    the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the
    Public
    Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 24.30113 of the Michigan Compiled
    Laws, annotated. I have several concerns. My first concern is -- aren't the
    beavers entitled to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are
    financially
    destitute and are unable to pay for said representation--so the State will
    have to
    provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either
    one or
    both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing flooding is
    proof that
    this is a natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect.
    In other
    words, we should leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing
    them
    and calling their dam names. If you want the stream "restored" to a
    dam-free
    flow condition, please contact the beavers -- but if you are going to
    arrest them,
    they obviously did not pay any attention to your dam letter (being unable
    to
    read English) In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right
    to build their
    unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water
    flows
    downstream. They have more dam right than I do to live and enjoy Spring
    Pond. If the
    Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Protection lives up to
    its name, it
    should protect the natural resources (Beavers) and the environment
    (Beavers' Dams.) So, as
    far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be referred for
    more elevated
    enforcement action right now. Why wait until 1/31/2002? The Spring Pond
    Beavers
    may be under the dam ice then and there will be no way for you or your dam
    staff to
    contact/harass them then. In conclusion, I would like to bring to your
    attention a real
    environmental quality (health) problem in the area. It is the bears.Bears
    are actually
    defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the
    defecating
    bears and leave the beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the
    beaver dam,
    watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump, and have no
    permit!)
    Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact
    you
    on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam
    office.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     
  2. :rofl:

    I think its funny too :)
     
  3. letters were real !

    These were actually letters not made up,which makes it really funny!:D
     
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  5. Doomhawk

    Doomhawk Council of Elders<BR>UberPigeon Elder DragonWolf

    Hiya ollive :hi:
     
  6. Hiya Vorath!!;)
     
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    Hamma Commanding Officer Officer

    Officer
    /me shags Doomhawk
     
  8. Tbeast

    Tbeast Recruitment Officer Officer Elder

    Officer
    :rofl: that was funny
     

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