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Discussion in 'General Open/Public Discussion' started by Manitou, 22 Aug 2002.


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  1. Greetings all.
    What can I saw that has not already been said? I can repeat it with different metaphors, but I think not.
    I will state that many of the things I’ve read from EVERYONE posted I hold to heart. Dane, Mars, and even Dragon. Yes. I understand and agree.
    Were you folks aware of the anguish the 12-man team went through? We are VERY tired of being treated as the JV team. As it stands, now, we (at least I do) still believe that upper echelons in the Base++ team still thinks of us that way. If Schrike hadn’t taken the initiative to form the “Laid-Back Faction” of -CDL- I never would have joined. I had been told by all that I’d be welcome anyway.
    Not to the degree that it was a couple months ago, but to a lesser degree. I think mostly because attention is elsewhere. Time and again, we didn’t have a full team until the VERY LAST MINUTE. We owe some of you folks BIG for coming through for us. Most notably = DANE, ARG, HTS, & THRONE~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Our matches were often during Practice and/or scrim dates for the other -CDL- team. This was a sore spot of contention. Hamma even posted that the needs of our matches were secondary to his practice schedule. We’ve played a 12-man match with 8 people. There more posts and comments. Some were rebuttals from us (Notice how I seem to be labeling? The ‘us’ and ‘you’ theme…? Dammit. I’m affected too. Sorry ‘bout that.) Anyway…one post in particular sent Oed, Schrike and I ballistic. However, we did not post to anyone directly or right away. (Anger is a grievance to be filed, but one must take care in the manner of the filing). We did file a complaint to Hamma and Mani via ICQ. And…we hung in there.
    And I know what it’s like to get passionate over things. Especially games.
    Believe me-I do.
    And as for me? I’m not ready to quit. No, not just yet. And even if I do, I plan it being on MY TERMS and on GOOD TERMS. From the days of {DoB} till now.
    To Mani’s original intent = It’s hard when it seems like a ‘few’ are spoiling it for the many. But this is when we need to shore up our D, and get solid. Once there, we can move forward.
    I’ll be there.

    ~PM~

    "Where out on the beach there are two empty chairs that say more than the people who ever sat there."
     
  2. DAMMIT DANE!!!!!!!!!
    Don’t you quit out on me again you little piss-ant. Geez-Louise~! (Rolls eyes & smacks forehead)
    (Sigh.) Personally, I think that this all stated when you were over @ my house. For all of you concerned - I bitched harshly to Dane about how many of the 12-man felt. He defended -CDL- and explained the issues (which I knew & understood, but I wanted to drive home my point). He put Mani and Hamma and -CDL- up on a pedestal with his words.
    Drat. I think he took my words too closely to heart and let slip the words and beliefs that he told me. He began to see things from one side and not both. His pressure to keep a larger team was to aid and incorporate. He felt…neglected?

    Well dammit - Don’t you give up on me like that Dane. From the days when you and I first met, you’ve never backed down from a fight in your life and you know it.
    You’ve NEVER given up during a match before. Ever.
    Don’t do it now. Take a break.
    I know you like lyrics and I know that the Wind got knocked out of your life and you just want a breather.
    I do too.
    Here -


    I'LL KEEP YOUR SECRETS
    - Trans-Siberian Orchestra

    LOST IN YOUR DARK
    I SEE YOU THERE
    WHAT DO YOU SEE BEYOND YOUR STARE
    AND YOU BELIEVE THAT NO ONE ELSE CAN KNOW
    WHAT IS THIS THING YOU KEEP INSIDE
    OUT OF THE LIGHT AND WRAPPED IN PRIDE
    ALWAYS AFRAID THAT ONE DAY IT WILL SHOW
    I'LL KEEP YOUR SECRETS
    I'LL HOLD YOUR GROUND
    AND WHEN THE DARKNESS STARTS TO FALL
    I'LL BE AROUND THERE WAITING
    WHEN DREAMS ARE FADING
    AND FRIENDS ARE DISTANT AND FEW
    KNOW AT THAT MOMENT I'LL BE THERE WITH YOU
    WHAT ARE THESE VOICES THAT YOU HEAR
    ARE THEY TOO FAR OR FAR TOO NEAR
    WHAT ARE THESE THINGS THAT ECHO FROM THE PAST
    WHO ARE THESE GHOSTS YOU SEE AT NIGHT
    THERE IN THE SHADOWS OF YOUR LIFE
    THEY ONLY LIVE BY THE LIGHT YOU CAST
    I'LL KEEP YOUR SECRETS
    I'LL HOLD YOUR GROUND
    AND WHEN THE DARKNESS STARTS TO FALL
    I'LL BE AROUND THERE WAITING
    WHEN DREAMS ARE FADING
    AND FRIENDS ARE DISTANT AND FEW
    KNOW AT THAT MOMENT I'LL BE THERE WITH YOU
    I'LL BE AROUND
    WHEN THERE'S NO REASON LEFT TO CARRY ON
    AND EVERY DREAM YOU'VE EVER HAD IS GONE
    AND THE DARK IS DEEP AND BLACK WITHOUT A SOUND
    AND EVERY STAR HAS BEEN DRAGGED TO THE GROUND
    KNOW AT THAT MOMENT I WILL BE AROUND
    KNOW AT THAT MOMENT I WILL BE AROUND

    -CDL-PumpMonkey
    (KM)Sterling
    {DoB}Sterling
    >>> Jay

    KNOW AT THAT MOMENT I WILL BE AROUND
    PS-Dave. You are my friend. You will stay at my house when you come down in November. And I do still have your home phone number...
    ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
     
  3. :( wouldn't believe how much you miss in the forums when you are busy with football. I haven't been on the computer/irc or whatever for about 4 days cause school and football. I come back to visit the forums and this is here. Why all the h8?


    /me spreads the <3
     
  4. Malone

    Malone Official Cow

    Everyone...

    You should all know I'm the only "GOOD" player with CDL...silly dane.... <3

    Now go back about your business and send me get well cards =(

    *Broke my leg in auto accident today*
     
  5. Jesus, I'm gone for one day at school, and here people are, ripping into eachother. :/

    I wish everyone would just be calm about stuff like this...


    Ps mani, that was what I told ChrisMog when he joined up
     
  6. mtx

    mtx Official Decepticon

    Actually we asked other nations to stop using their profesional players and start using amauter players. No one really wanted to do that so we got tired of it and put together the Dream Team. After wipping everyother country I think our point of "use amauters or we'll use our pros" was clearly understood.

    As for Danes problem with Homi well.. what did you expect Dane? I mean come on.. they guy destroyed 3 T1 clans. (CoD, CoDx, and Weapons of no destruction WMD) The mere mention of his name invokes anger in the T1 players who knew him. Remember the flame wars where everyone told him off all the time?

    As for this right here ....

    I've seen some low blows in my time but I've never seen anything that low. As far as I knew he was with CDL for a long time and had something to say to Mani. I don't care if this is the CDL board you have no right to say something like that. You just showed the world what an asshole you really are.

    I have some cause to insult you Homi. You ruined some good teams that were all about having fun and sticking together. BUT you were all about competition... you didn't care about anything else and you never have. Congratulations you will forever be known as the biggest asshole to ever be in the IX community.

    Tell me if you ever go to a LAN party in Texas. I'll be there with one purpose.
     
  7. Manitou

    Manitou Old War Horse DragonWolf

    ^^ That is just dumb. MTX, these kind of statements can get you in trouble. No joke man.... I know you harbor ill will towards h0mi, but threats like this are not needed nor necessary. Its a game, dude...

    I am sorry this thread got like it is. It was never meant to start a flame. I NEVER post in flame threads and I totally avoid starting them. I am locking this thread because it has run the course of usefullness.
     
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