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I think being ripped away from your family and surrounded by total strangers is less than okay for a 4 year old child.

 

As a parent I can tell you kids can drive you nuts but I think this lady has anger management problems. Beating your kid for any reason is wrong but all this kid did is act up in the store. That really isn't much to me.

 

Last I heard this morning was that she admitted to hitting the girl (er...video tape?) but is pleading innocent to the child battery charges..

 

i saw her interviewed on good morning america this a.m...

 

Ok, she was wrong.....

But I would not judge too harshly all the time. I do NOT condone her actions, but I will not immediately condemn her either. I speak from personal experience.

AND NO, I do NOT beat little children. I was in that childs position many, many a time while growing up. My father was not a great father for his actions, but I will not condemn him for his actions. I don't know what that 'woman' needs in her life, but she obviously needs serious help. My father has apologized numerous times for his lack of control towards my sister and I. He especially apologizes for an incident where I stood up to him while my sister was in trouble. I was scared, you cannot imagine. Being an 11 year old, 80 pound book worm standing up to a 30 something 200 hundred something pound guy, you cannot imagine the fear.

I remember that night, forever.

Anyways, I don't know what I am saying, but this whole incident in the news drudged up so many nasty personal memories that I felt I should say something.

All I can say right now is that lady was obviously wrong. She needs help more than she needs life in prison. Her daughter should not be with her, until the mother can be trully trusted with the care of an innocent child. People make mistakes, some people change, some don't. My father changed. He is now what I wished he would be while I was growing up. Gentle, but a little firm when neccessary. My father now lives with the knowledge and the self disgust of what he did, and because of that, he has changed into a new person. Maybe, this could happen for that mother as well.

Once again, I don't know what I am trying to say. I just felt like I needed to say something. I apologize to anyone if I offended you with my viewpoint. I apologize for revealing parts of my personal life, but if I didn't tell you my experiences, would you take what I said seriously?

Vong

 

insert obligatory she deserved it post here

Depending on whether or not the kid was being a loud obnoxious brat in the store, i can forgive everything up to the restraining the child and socking it to her... and the hair pulling was bad form as well. But if the kid wasn't doing anything deserving of any disipline at all...

wonder what exactly the father is doing. This is his chance to get custody, and save himself the payment of child support for the next 14 years(or as long as the child survives...), as well as get his child out of that environment.

 

By no means am I saying to forgive the lady...just asking that someone try to understand her. Maybe there is some help for her. and if not, destroy her.

 

My father used to hit me. Sometimes beat me but I never had any serious physical damage so I have to believe that even though he went further than he should have, he must have been restraining himself at least a little.

My mother couldn't take his emotional and physical abuse herself so she left him....and left her kids alone with him.

Would I have wanted to be removed from his home? No. Even though he was a tangled, emotional knot, he loved us and always did the best he could to provide for us.

Our family has healed up nicely considering where we came from.

<3 to Vong.

 

I think the system can sometimes hurt more than it helps. Ofcourse selfrighteous America would disgree but, having a mother who worked for mental hospitals, I have seen the system in action and it just doesn't work very well.

Right now there is a 4 year old child woundering where here mommy and daddy are and when she can go home. When she cries she has no-one but a stranger to try a comfort her. She doesn't have the love of her family or anything else to comfort her.

There is a mother who hit her kid. If this is something that happens a lot then there is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with. What if it was a just an isolated incident though? The lady just couldn't take the preasure anymore. So she did exactly what she shouldn't have done and lives with regret now. Only a parent can understand what a child can put you through.

If she had a history of this kind of behavior I would convict her for hitting her child. It still sickens me to see it but I'm not ready to ruin a childs life over this.

In my old household there where many universal remotes. My stepdad threw remotes, VCR tapes, canned drinks, and all sorts of shit at me. We were sworn enemies and violence was a familur advasary. Now things are different and my stepbrother, his son, has a great dad. He always tells me how sorry he is about the way he acted back then. He's a great father now that he has grown up a bit. I couldn't think of a better dad for my brother. Maybe that is this ladies problem as well. Maybe she just needs to grow up a bit. But the real question is "Are you going to give her a chance? Or just wreck the family?"

 

Give her a chance?

Yes, with some stipulations. Find out what the heck happened that day. Find out why it happened. find out if there's a way to fix the issue.

Unfortunately, the aggresive American thinks that 'fixing' the problem if to get rid of it. Jail time does not always work. Therapy can be stronger than jail time in many instances.

If therapy of some kind doesn't seem to work for this lady, and she doesn't seem genuinely remorseful...I say get rid of her. The child is better off with someone who can and will love her AND take of her.


Oh...and thx guys and Queenie.

 

Same here, I understand the need for disipline, having been a little kid before.

Theres disipline, and then theres restraining a 4 year old into a seat with zero give and pounding them into a pulp with twitchy legs.

 

well aperintly her problem wus the stor wouldent take back over 300.00 bucks worth of merchendise she had no reaseets for and wus later found to belong to anuther store.thats why the camra wus on her she wus a suspected shoplifter.now we finde that she has ben a rested several times and has many worents on her.the fother has a long recerd as well over 8 convictchons.thats probaly why the state dident give him costady rite away.

thay also aperintly bealong to a culcher that merys there 11 and 12 yere old girls off to 30 yere old men.iv seen video on there partys thay throw as coming out partys for thees yung girls to show of for thees men to arang the mariges.

i for one bealeev in punishment for children not time outs .shere use time outs if thay work but iv seen many a parint use them and the chiled keeps on mis beahaveing now ther is a difrens beatween punishment and abuse i do not condone abuse and in this instens frome wut i saw on the tape it seemd to be prity abusive.

when kids are that age thay are guna act up .thats wut thay do thay are testing you .as a parent you simply cant loos yore cool.never let yore anger rule you. up hear in my area there have ben 3 reasent babys kild by abusiv perints or there boyfrend thats the end reasolt of uncontroled anger.i can imagin no grater torment than acsadentaly or perpasly cawsing the ingery or deth of a child i simply could not live whith myself!!!

 

Okay maybe I just have some form of ADD but I couldn't get all the way through your post without feeling discouraged. So paste that thing into word, hit spellcheck, and watch the monitor explode.

 

MTX, I love Chickenspank's innovative spelling. <3


I've heard of the travellers and seen a documentary on them a long time ago that indicated in their subculture those who are able to commit profitable crimes without detection are looked on admirably. Older men buy young brides, right? Seems twisted looking in from the outside.